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Re: [UACCESS-L] FW: Insurers Fight Speech-Impairment Remedy
- To: "Robert Carnegie" <Robert.Carnegie@seemis.gov.uk>
- Subject: Re: [UACCESS-L] FW: Insurers Fight Speech-Impairment Remedy
- From: covici@ccs.covici.com
- Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 10:12:51 -0400
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- Comments: In-reply-to "Robert Carnegie" <Robert.Carnegie@seemis.gov.uk> message dated "Wed, 16 Sep 2009 15:00:07 +0100."
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Should have him with Hitler's voice, just like the mustash. Robert Carnegie <Robert.Carnegie@seemis.gov.uk> wrote: > Can I run it with President Obama's voice on hardware that can inflict physical pain on >medical insurers - either a laptop big enough to beat them around the head with, or some >other way? I don't have the particular need the product addresses, or even a personal >beef with the insurers, I just feel like joining in. (I would appreciate a keystroke >speaker for desktop PC, but products exist for that.) > > -----Original Message----- > From: uaccess-l-admin@trace.wisc.edu [mailto:uaccess-l-admin@trace.wisc.edu] On Behalf >Of Steve Jacobs > Sent: 15 September 2009 17:42 > To: Larry Goldberg > Cc: Uaccess-L > Subject: Re: [UACCESS-L] FW: Insurers Fight Speech-Impairment Remedy > > The lunacy exhibited in the article below is what motivated us to > develop the following applications for the Android platform: > > Speaking Pad (free): > A talking notepad (37 languages) for Android. This notepad will speak > what you type. > See: http://www.cyrket.com/package/com.ideal.speakingpad > See: http://apps4android.org/speaking_pad.htm > > iAugComm ($4.99): > iAugComm transforms the Android phones into a powerful, high-quality, > low-cost augmentative and alternative communication (AAC) device, which > can enable individuals who are non-verbal or whose speech is difficult > to understand to communicate easily and effectively using a simple, > icon-based interface. > See: http://www.cyrket.com/package/com.ideal.iaugcomm > See: http://apps4android.org/iaugcomm.htm > > Steve Jacobs > IDEAL Group, INc. > Apps4Android > > > Larry Goldberg wrote: > > FYI. > > > > ... Larry ... > > > > ------ Forwarded Message > > > > September 15, 2009 > > Insurers Fight Speech-Impairment Remedy > > By ASHLEE VANCE > > > > SAN FRANCISCO < Kara Lynn has amyotrophic lateral sclerosis, or A.L.S., > > which has attacked the muscles around her mouth and throat, removing her > > ability to speak. A couple of years ago, she spent more than $8,000 to buy a > > computer, approved by Medicare, that turns typed words into speech that her > > family, friends and doctors can hear. > > > > Under government insurance requirements, the maker of the PC, which ran > > ordinary Microsoft Windows software, had to block any nonspeech functions, > > like sending e-mail or browsing the Web. > > > > Dismayed by the PC¹s limitations and clunky design, Ms. Lynn turned to a > > $300 iPhone 3G from Apple running $150 text-to-speech software. Ms. Lynn, > > who is 48 and lives in Poughkeepsie, N.Y., said it worked better and let her > > ³wear her voice² around her neck while snuggling with her 5-year-old son, > > Aiden, who has Down syndrome. > > > > Medicare and private health insurers decline to cover cheap devices like > > iPhones and netbook PCs that can help the speech-impaired, despite their > > usefulness and lower cost. > > > > Instead, public and private insurers insist that, if Ms. Lynn and others > > like her want insurance to pay, they must spend 10 to 20 times as much for > > dedicated, proprietary devices that can do far less. > > > > The logic: Insurance is supposed to cover medical devices, and smartphones > > or PCs can be used for nonmedical purposes, like playing video games or Web > > browsing. > > > > ³We would not cover the iPhones and netbooks with speech-generating software > > capabilities because they are useful in the absence of an illness or > > injury,² said Peter Ashkenaz, a spokesman for the federal Centers for > > Medicare and Medicaid Services. Private insurers tend to follow the > > government¹s lead in matters of coverage. Two years ago, iPhones and > > netbooks barely existed, so it may not be surprising that the industry has > > yet to consider their role as medical devices. > > > > But the health care system has long had trouble keeping up with Moore¹s Law, > > the principle that computing power rapidly increases even as costs fall > > sharply. > > > > Doctors must still bring a patient into their offices instead of, say, > > inspecting an e-mailed photo of a rash if they want most insurers to pay for > > the consultation. Digitizing medical records is such a vast undertaking that > > the government is now spending billions of dollars to jump-start it. > > > > In the case of A.L.S., also called Lou Gehrig¹s disease, advocates spent > > years fighting to have any speech-specific devices covered by insurance, > > finally succeeding in 2001. > > > > For the millions of Americans with A.L.S., Down syndrome, autism, strokes > > and other speech-impairing conditions, the insurance industry¹s aversion to > > covering mainstream devices adds to the challenges they face. Advocates say > > using an everyday device to communicate can ease the stigma and fear of > > making the adjustment. > > > > At the same time, current policies mean that the government and private > > insurers may be spending unnecessary dollars on specialty machines. > > > > Dr. Stanley E. Harris, who helps set device coverage policies for Horizon > > Blue Cross Blue Shield of New Jersey, said that if enough patients requested > > new types of devices, the insurer would study their usefulness. ³We¹re > > looking for evidence-based data to support the effectiveness of whatever is > > being requested,² he said. > > > > In the meantime, people with speech disabilities have a choice: pay for a > > cheaper product from their own pockets, try to borrow one from a private > > assistance group or spend their insurer¹s money on a specialty device from a > > company like DynaVox Mayer-Johnson or Prentke Romich. > > > > DynaVox, a leading maker of devices for the speech-impaired, has computers > > that start at $8,000 and run Windows, just like 90 percent of all PCs. To > > meet insurance rules, DynaVox disables the general computing tools. After > > the insurer pays, customers can pay $50 to DynaVox to reactivate the full > > functions. > > > > The proprietary devices have some special qualities. They are sturdier than > > typical computers and have better speakers and links to support services. > > > > But the prices may seem hard to justify based on components alone. One > > $5,000 DynaVox product is essentially the speech software bundled with a > > two-pound keyboard that has a six-inch screen. And the manufacturers mark up > > standard accessories by as much as 2,000 percent. Prentke Romich, for > > example, charges $250 for a Bluetooth wireless adapter similar to those that > > cost $20 in stores. > > > > Jim Shea, vice president for marketing at DynaVox, says his company¹s prices > > run high because it must do a lot of custom work and research to serve a > > niche that mainstream companies ignore. ³We are not riding the wave of > > consumer electronics in terms of cost,² he said. ³We¹re building the devices > > here in Pittsburgh from scratch.² > > > > In addition, the do-it-yourself approach isn¹t for everybody, he said. ³You > > have to be somewhat savvy, get the software and set it up,² he said. > > > > Disease experts say companies like DynaVox and Prentke Romich make many > > sophisticated, helpful products. Still, advocates argue, advances in > > computing and easy-to use speech software have opened doors to use cheap > > mainstream alternatives. Indeed, the price drops have made it possible for > > A.L.S. assistance groups to buy dozens of netbooks, install specialized > > software like Proloquo2Go and lend them to clients. > > > > Betsy Caporale, a speech language pathologist in Danville, Calif., has > > tested various devices and software with children who have Down syndrome and > > autism. > > > > ³The iPhone has been a runaway success with these kids,² she said. ³It takes > > them about 10 minutes to learn how to use the iPhone, and there is this cool > > factor for them.² > > > > Ms. Lynn, from Poughkeepsie, would like to see insurers loosen their rules > > to accommodate general-purpose devices and give people like her more > > financial flexibility. Since insurers will typically cover only one device > > every five years, people with degenerative conditions like A.L.S. often hold > > off any claims until their condition worsens, and they really need an > > expensive specialty product that can track their eye and head movements. > > > > Perhaps the government could set a certain dollar limit and then let > > patients find the products that fit their needs, Ms. Lynn suggested. ³I > > really would like to see Medicare do away with the dedicated-device rule and > > the one-device limit,² she said by e-mail. > > > > But so far, government and private insurers are not swayed. ³We look at > > determining the effectiveness of the technology < and not the cost < first,² > > Mr. Harris said. > > > > For Ms. Lynn, the iPhone, with the special software, is cheaper, more > > effective and essential. ³Technology has become as important to me as air, > > food, water,² she wrote. > > > > ------ End of Forwarded Message > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > UACCESS-L mailing list > > UACCESS-L@trace.wisc.edu > > http://trace.wisc.edu:8080/mailman/listinfo/uaccess-l > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > > Internal Virus Database is out of date. > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.82/2351 - Release Date: 09/07/09 06:40:00 > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > UACCESS-L mailing list > UACCESS-L@trace.wisc.edu > http://trace.wisc.edu:8080/mailman/listinfo/uaccess-l > > ********************************************************************** > This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and > intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they > are addressed. 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