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RE: [SEC508] Does .31 always apply?
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- From: "Michael R. Burks" <mburks952@worldnet.att.net>
- Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2006 12:50:50 -0400
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I agree totally with this approach, on both sides, vendor and government it would aid things enormously in my opinion. Mike Burks 919 870 8788 - Office 919 349 6661 - Cell -----Original Message----- From: sec508-admin@trace.wisc.edu [mailto:sec508-admin@trace.wisc.edu] On Behalf Of Mark D. Urban Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 12:42 PM To: 'Barrett, Don'; sec508@trace.wisc.edu Subject: RE: [SEC508] Does .31 always apply? Don makes a great point. This gets to another issue of the FPC: broad interpretive power by vendor and government official alike. Functional requirements like these need metrics, so that products and services can be "scored" for levels of conformance. A quick (and not thought-out) example for 1194.31 (a) would be: 1 point: a person using one piece of Assistive technology can gain access to the important information provided in the EIT. 3 points: a person using at least three pieces of assistive technology can gain access to important information and be trained (or have the AT adjusted) for the access to be comparable in speed and usability to the access provided persons without disabilities. 3 points (alternative): No assistive technology is needed in this regard to gain access to the important information provided in the EIT 5 points: No assistive technology is needed in this regard for the access to be comparable in speed and usability to the access provided persons without disabilities. As an aside, I'm glad to see this discussion. Many of us are not on the 508 committee and this is an important forum to hash out these issues beforehand. Regards, -Mark D. Urban 919-395-8513 (cell) Chair, North Carolina Governor's Advocacy Council for Persons with Disabilities Keep up with the latest in worldwide accessibility at (http://www.icdri.org/) -----Original Message----- From: sec508-admin@trace.wisc.edu [mailto:sec508-admin@trace.wisc.edu] On Behalf Of Barrett, Don Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 12:16 PM To: sec508@trace.wisc.edu Subject: RE: [SEC508] Does .31 always apply? As someone who has to be accountable on a daily basis to contracting officials, CIO managers, developers, CFO officials, etc., I believe that it is a fundamental disservice to Section 508 and an abuse of 1194.31 to use its criteria to address perceived gaps in the 508 standards. The benefits to the end-user community of using and applying stable objective standards far outweigh those gained by using the functional performance criteria as some sort of after-the-fact "gotcha" applied in a capricious manner. In order to take 508 seriously, developers, manufactures, and agency project officers require clear criteria applied in a consistent fashion. It cannot be helped in some cases, but the more that accessibility can be assessed against stable concrete measures without being subject to the vagaries of e.g., an arbitrary version of a particular screen reader, the better. Some of the technical standards are vague enough already and cause enough controversy without our pinning ! our 508 hopes on the FPC, which would result in a free-for-all push for total accessibility and ultimately a push-back against 508. At ED, we are fond of citing the example of multilevel tables. When 508 first came out, neither JAWS nor WindowEyes would honor the programmatic structured references provided by properly coded HEADERS and ID attributes. If we had capriciously applied .31 we would have failed mountains of web pages with these tables. There would have been significantly less pressure on the screen reader developers to improve their products. The same tables are no longer a barrier to those who use the current versions of JAWS and WindowEyes precisely because we went to them and told them that there readers were not working with 508-conformant code; we put the onus on them where it belonged, and they followed the market. Content authors, AT developers, and end-users with disabilities all benefit from having objective standards. The FPC are a great backup, but they should be used as a mechanism for *passing* E&IT that is accessible but not specifically in conformance to the standards. Th! e FPC are extremely subjective when compared to the other standards and it is counter productive to use them as a way to fail E&IT that has met applicable standards and conforms to them. Agencies still have their 504 obligations which are more than adequate safety nets for those situations when a product is conformant with the technical standards but still not accessible. Really this is the same situation we have with commercial non-availability and other exceptions. We experience enough problems every day with agency personnel who don't want to learn and embrace the 508 requirements without subjecting the field to the anarchy which would result if we gave the FPC full sway in all EIT evaluations. Don Barrett Section 508 Coordinator U.S. Department of Education (202)-205-8245 don.barrett@ed.gov -----Original Message----- From: sec508-admin@trace.wisc.edu [mailto:sec508-admin@trace.wisc.edu] On Behalf Of Gregg Vanderheiden Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 12:58 AM To: sec508@trace.wisc.edu Subject: [SEC508] Does .31 always apply? This question came up a lot early on but both the original 508 standard and the subsequent guides are pretty clear that .31 provisions apply to all products and product functions. After the technical specifications are applied the .31 provisions are used to make sure the product as a whole is accessible. The .31 provisions are sort of the uber provisions. In fact, .31 can even trump the technical guidelines in a way. The standard allows for equivalent facilitation. That is, you can meet the guidelines in a manner different than the technical specifications if it provides the same functionality as the technical specifications. When you do this, you use .31 to test whether your equivalent facilitation really provides access. (see below) Here are a few places form the 508 standard and the Access Board Guides that give examples of .31 applying to all products - and to being the test you pass after meeting the technical specifications:
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