RE: [SEC508] Does .31 always apply?

["Gregg Vanderheiden" <gv@trace.wisc.edu>]

So you are arguing that if voice is used instead of text - it could be
argued that it was equivalent facilitation under .31a?   

Hmmmm

I don't think you can (or should) succeed in saying that voice was
equivalent facilitation for text in Web content. 

Do you?   If there is a loophole somewhere in 508 that allows that - then it
needs to get fixed in remake.    


Gregg

 -- ------------------------------ 
Gregg C Vanderheiden Ph.D. 
Professor - Ind. Engr. & BioMed Engr.
Director - Trace R & D Center 
University of Wisconsin-Madison 
The Player for my DSS sound file is at http://tinyurl.com/dho6b 
 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Poehlman [mailto:david.poehlman@handsontechnologeyes.com] 
> Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 10:27 AM
> To: Gregg Vanderheiden
> Cc: 'section 508 discussion list'
> Subject: Re: [SEC508] Does .31 always apply?
> 
> Greg,
> 
> I know that audio and graphics are non text but equivelant access  
> means that if I provided this as an alternative I could be covered.   
> This alternative would not be functional using a refreshable 
> braillle display or via phone since both require text to be 
> transmitted for processing.  In the case of a refreshable 
> braille display, the text needs to be available.  In the case 
> of the phone browser, we need something that can be converted 
> into speech and right now, that is text.  It might be 
> possible to ocr the image of text, use speech recognition to 
> convert the audio to text  and output it but that's getting heavy.
> 
> On Jul 18, 2006, at 10:27 AM, Gregg Vanderheiden wrote:
> 
> I believe both the graphic and audio would be non-text so 
> they would be covered by .22a that says
>   (a) A text equivalent for every non-text element shall be provided"
> 
> So you couldn't pass with only audio and graphic if using the 
> Web phone interface.
> 
> Or do you mean that since the phone doesn't have braille 
> built in it could only display the text as voice?
> 
> Gregg
> 
>   -- ------------------------------
> Gregg C Vanderheiden Ph.D.
> Professor - Ind. Engr. & BioMed Engr.
> Director - Trace R & D Center
> University of Wisconsin-Madison
> The Player for my DSS sound file is at http://tinyurl.com/dho6b
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: sec508-admin@trace.wisc.edu
> > [mailto:sec508-admin@trace.wisc.edu] On Behalf Of David Poehlman
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 9:02 AM
> > To: section 508 discussion list
> > Subject: Re: [SEC508] Does .31 always apply?
> >
> > Following on my braille issue, accessing a web that complies might 
> > also not be possible with phone systems which serve up synthesized 
> > speech through the web/phone interface.  For instance, if there are 
> > graphical representations of the content on a site accompanied by 
> > audio representations of same, the phone will get gibberish 
> as well as 
> > the braille getting nothing to gibbberish.
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > SEC508 mailing list
> > SEC508@trace.wisc.edu
> > http://trace.wisc.edu:8080/mailman/listinfo/sec508
> >
> 
> _______________________________________________
> SEC508 mailing list
> SEC508@trace.wisc.edu
> http://trace.wisc.edu:8080/mailman/listinfo/sec508
> 
> 
>