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RE: [SEC508] Applying 1194.22 and .21 to Web apps
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- From: "Jonathan Avila" <jon@bartsite.com>
- Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 11:36:18 -0400
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I agree with Don that the issue with sufficient information would fall under 1194.22L. The web standards also don't' cover keyboard access, but the Access Board's Guide to the Standards implies that lack of keyboard access to scripted controls would fall under this provision also. I would not associate 1194.21 unless the application uses a plug-in such as Flash, JAVA, etc. As far as the conflicting keystrokes, seems to me that would fall under 1194.31 Functional Performance Criteria. Jonathan -----Original Message----- From: sec508-admin@trace.wisc.edu [mailto:sec508-admin@trace.wisc.edu] On Behalf Of Barrett, Don Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2006 8:26 AM To: Sailesh Panchang; sec508@trace.wisc.edu Cc: jongund@uiuc.edu Subject: RE: [SEC508] Applying 1194.22 and .21 to Web apps I would use L from 1194.22 since the controls are not yielding "functional text." I wouldn't recommend using pieces of 1194.21 unless they are triggered by standard M of 1194.22. That way, you can fully and legitimately fair the controls since functional text is only functional if assistive technology can navigate to and operate the control as intended. As far as the keyboard shortcuts interfering with the screen reader keystrokes, that isn't covered by any standard. I hate access keys for that very reason, and they are usually more problem than they are worth. Non-disabled folks who aren't too much into accessibility think we all love them as they think their job is to make our lives easier, and although I laud the concept, the actual practice doesn't quite deliver as promised. Don Barrett Section 508 Coordinator U.S. Department of Education (202)-205-8245 don.barrett@ed.gov -----Original Message----- From: sec508-admin@trace.wisc.edu [mailto:sec508-admin@trace.wisc.edu] On Behalf Of Sailesh Panchang Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2006 8:51 AM To: sec508@trace.wisc.edu Cc: jongund@uiuc.edu Subject: [SEC508] Applying 1194.22 and .21 to Web apps I am evaluating an application that uses multimedia content and Javascripting for S508. As it is Web content 1194.22 will apply. But in this case there are elements that appear as user interface elements to the sighted user. These elements can also be activated from the keyboard but the fact that these elements are user interface elements and can be activated is not conveyed at all by the application to assistive technology. Therefore the "identity, operation and state of the elements" is not known to non-visual users. So can I apply para (d) of 1194.21? Para (l) of 1194.22 only requires functional text to be associated with interface elements created with scripting but does not require the element to be identified as para (d) of 1194.21does. I remember a recent post on one of these lists where Dr. John Gunderson said that one might have to consider 1194.21 in some cases of Web apps too. Or do I say this is only a Para (l) violation ? The controls also have keyboard shortcuts that conflict with JAWS or WinEyes and one has to use the bypass key to make them work. Any issue there? Thanks, Sailesh Panchang Senior Accessibility Engineer Deque Systems Inc. (www.deque.com) 11180 Sunrise Valley Drive, Suite #400, Reston VA 20191 Phone: 703-225-0380 (ext 105) E-mail: sailesh.panchang@deque.com _______________________________________________ SEC508 mailing list SEC508@trace.wisc.edu http://trace.wisc.edu:8080/mailman/listinfo/sec508 _______________________________________________ SEC508 mailing list SEC508@trace.wisc.edu http://trace.wisc.edu:8080/mailman/listinfo/sec508
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